"It is looking at things for a long time
that ripens you and gives you a deeper meaning."
~~Vincent Van Gogh
Hi all,
Happy anniversary... belatedly! Thank you all for being a
part of the John/Andrew Bucket Brigade! Hard to believe it's
been twenty two years since this all started but I'm very glad
it's still here. :-)
God bless,
Jenni
A Look at JABB's Past and Present
Big thanks to Sierra who submitted the following questions!
Is there anyone besides you from the OG co-founders that write
the stories still, or is it just you?
Just me. I'm the only one of the original co-founders still
subscribed to JABB. Actually, there are probably less than
five original members still on JABB. Hi to those
ladies!
JABB was founded on July 19th, 1998 by Audrey, Barbara, Jarrod,
and myself. Not terribly long after that, Barbara
disappeared. I don't mean that in the sense of "call Unsolved
Mysteries!" She just quietly withdrew from JABB and
the wider TBAA fandom and her AOL account was disabled. To
date, I still wonder about what happened to her and pray she's
doing well. It did occur to me recently that given none of
us ever met Barbara or even talked to her on phone... maybe she
was an angel. Who knows? But, Barbara, if you ever
read this... thanks for being there at the beginning!
Jarrod stuck around for a few years and I'm Facebook friends with
him currently but he was offline for a long while and when he
returned, he never asked about JABB so... I just never
brought it up. If he ever did ask, I'd definitely tell him
it's still going. I think it was actually Jarrod who coined
"Dyeland" as a joke... probably little knowing how seriously I'd
eventually take it. ;-) (Actually got a message from
Jarrod as I was writing this... still not about JABB ;-)
I'm also Facebook friends with Audrey who resigned shortly before
she got married. Totally understandable! JABB was
still going when she left and whether or not she knows it's still
going... not sure. She has a really full life and, again, I
just never bring it up. Maybe that's weird but 1. It's
just plain not the JABB that existed when Audrey and Jarrod were
active and 2. I don't want them to feel like they have any
lingering obligation to it. Admittedly, maybe I'd just be a
little embarrassed to tell them how things played out. I
mean when they left the Andrew who appeared in Dyeland stories
basically was the Andrew we all watched on TBAA. That Andrew
would NEVER be raising children with JenniAnn. But utilizing
a recursive
canon Andrew was the only way I was going to be able to keep
JABB going as the post-TBAA years went on.
After that, I did have two more co-presidents.
Coincidentally, both were named Karen. Karen I was a good
friend who passed away some years ago. Karen II
ghosted.
So... I no longer have co-founders or co-presidents because
it started to feel like hiring a drummer for Spinal Tap (high five
to anyone who gets that reference). Also, having one (or
more) just doesn't make as much sense as it used to. It was
really helpful when we were doing things like "Top Ten Reasons
We're Excited for TBAA's Next Season" and we could divide up
writing duties. Now with TBAA over and John Dye having
passed on, JABB is much, much more Dyeland-focused and stories are
a lot more difficult to divvy up. I'm also A LOT less
disciplined when it comes to writing JABB than I used to be.
So often, I'm writing newsletters on the Sunday they're due so
there's not time to go to someone else and be like "Hey, do you
have a top ten or something we could add to make this a little
longer?" That being said, I wouldn't turn down help as it
comes! If you ever have an idea for JABB, please let me
know!
What made you think of the idea to create JABB?
To be honest... I don't recall. Unfortunately, a full-blown
interview with me about the origins of JABB would probably start
to sound like the deposition of a sleazy politician... "I
don't recall... I don't recall... Maybe... but maybe
not." ;-) I mean earlier this week I got the
anniversary date wrong by a day and I never remember the
year! I always have to go look at the TOC or Calendar.
What I think happened is Audrey, Barbara, Jarrod, and
myself were the last in a chatroom that TBAA fans had every Sunday
night after an episode... re-run or new. On that evening, it
would have been a re-run since July is summer hiatus. There
had been some playful teasing of the sometimes over-the-top
Andrew/John fans. So we decided to create a group for them
while also poking fun at ourselves as Andrew/John fans. So
JABB was born. We wrote the 12
Steps but I'm not even sure if we fully intended to go
further than that or if we only started doing biweekly newsletters
because people reacted so favorably to the 12 Steps.
Anyway, whatever our original motivations, I'm very glad we
created JABB. :-)
And how did you think to start writing this world of stories?
It definitely started as a joke. I feel like Jarrod made a
crack about Audrey and me being so obsessed that we'd move to a
place called Dyeland. Which was also kinda funny since, at
the time, Audrey lived not terribly far from an actual city called
Deland. The first real appearance of Dyeland as the setting
for a story is this fairy
tale which I absolutely will not reread because I'm sure I'd
be mortified. To the best of my recollection, the three of
us wrote it with some input from Sara/Kiwi who was another early
member. And things continued in that silly, jokey vein for a
few years. If you look at the Story
Index, all of the gray and yellow stories were written
without any idea that they'd be part of some big picture ongoing
story. As you can see, most of those happened while TBAA was
still in on the air. The green aka canonical stories really
kick in with TBAA's final season. I think with "The Walk," I
realized that these stories were a really good way to find closure
with some things TBAA either left open or didn't resolve in a way
that I felt good about. "Nor Iron Bars a Cage" was the first
Dyeland story of length and was written to fulfill a desire to see
a TBAA episode about Andrew getting put on trial for murder that
was mentioned in a spoiler magazine during TBAA's run but, as we
know, never happened.
As the years went on after TBAA ended, Dyeland was really the only
way to advance the characters we'd come to love. I suppose I
could have written straight fanfic but, as I mentioned, the
Dyeland stories had already started to feel so fulfilling.
Monica and Tess didn't coddle Andrew enough? There's a
JenniAnn for that. Monica and Tess got proteges and Andrew
didn't? There's a Violeta for that. I also liked the
family feel that was in the Dyeland stories but wouldn't have been
there with fanfic that took after TBAA too closely. It was
entertaining to watch an ever-changing cast of assignments on the
show. But, as a writer, I'm not particularly interested in
repeatedly developing characters who will never be heard from
again.
I also think it was a blessing that I went down the road of
Dyeland stories as opposed to TBAA fanfic because I feel like the
former better equipped both myself and JABB to cope with John
Dye's death. Because John Dye existed as a respected actor
in the Dyeland stories, I could write the characters grieving for
him which helped with my own grief. It also allowed for the
introduction of Joshua as a main character which gave me a much
needed respite from writing Andrew-centric stories. In the
immediate wake of Mr. Dye's passing, there was a definite tension
when it came to writing for Andrew. It really helped to have
Joshua do the heavy lifting in stories until I was back on my
feet. I just don't think I would have been interested in
writing Monica and Tess focused fanfic during that period.
How do you figure out how to appropriately write Joshua’s
thoughts and actions. Is it difficult sometimes?
Sometimes! And, honestly, there are still things that I
sometimes wonder about whether or not I made the right
decision. For example, I sometimes rethink my decision to
have Joshua and JenniAnn share a hotel room in
"Remembrance." I ended up deciding that they would because
1. It's not like anyone else at the hotel would be like
"Yikes! Jesus is sharing a hotel room with some random
woman!" No one there, except JenniAnn, had any idea who he
really was and 2. Joshua knew she was going to have a
nightmare about him and would need his support and 3. I mean
it's not like there's anything about JenniAnn that Joshua doesn't
already know... Modesty seems pretty moot in that
scenario. But I also realize someone might read that story
as a stand-alone thing and find it very odd and maybe
problematic. But, in the end, I thought of all the times in
the Gospels when Jesus did something that was viewed with suspect
by the people of His time... but He needed to do that thing to
reach people. He needed to dine with tax collectors, comfort
and defend an adulteress, heal on the Sabbath, etc. He
didn't seem to get worked up about "Oh, but people might
think..." So, as with that scenario, I reflect on what's in
the Bible and go from there.
Going forward, I am going to be a lot more careful about any time
Joshua speaks about the future. I already tend to keep him
pretty vague about the future but I'm pretty sure I had him
promise Ivy that he'd walk her down the aisle... with me never
suspecting that a pandemic would completely alter Ivy's and Sy's
wedding plans. I found what I think is a decent
work-around. But going forward I will definitely be more
cognizant of the fact that life can radically change in a short
amount of time. That's probably the most difficult
part. Even when he's in a more limited form, Joshua knows A
LOT. And sometimes he knows everything. But I
certainly don't. So it's challenging to write him as someone
who knows the future when I certainly do not know the
future.
I also have to be careful about any time Joshua speaks about
scientific things. Most recently, he defended the
distinction between sex and gender. I felt pretty
comfortable with that because science and sociology both speak to
that. But I wasn't going to have Joshua rattle off too much
about, say, chromosomes because I feel like as soon as I do that,
some study will come out to say that's not exactly right or not
exactly complete. So I just had him say that there are
combinations beyond XX and XY which is very true but I did not
have him list off what those variations are lest another be
discovered after the fact.
Joshua's thoughts are often easier to write than his actions just
because, in the stories, he's often thinking about the other
characters. And since I write for all the other
characters... Joshua can't be mistaken about them (unless I just
plain forget something which I try not to do). But that's
also one reason why I have relatively strict guidelines for people
who want to write Dyeland stories. If they write something
counter to what Joshua has said/thought then that's a
problem.
This newsletter is dedicated to John Dye for
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