Hi all,

Happy Pride Month!  I hope you're having a good one filled with joy and love and acceptance!

God bless,
Jenni



Ask a JABB Co-Founder- The Pride Edition, Part II



The previous edition can be viewed here.  This time around, I chose to focus more on asexuality but not exclusively.

If all angels are asexual, what's the deal with Ed?

Ed was asexual the entire time he was an angel (and demon).  He only became gay when he became human.  Prior to that, he felt intense romantic love for Steve but not sexual attraction.  It very well could have happened that Ed remained an angel and he and Steve carried on with a romantic relationship a la Andrew and JenniAnn or Aziraphale and Crowley.  However, due to Steve's past, Ed wanted him to have the marriage of his dreams.  That was never coming from a sexual place for Ed.  It was purely wanting the best for his partner.  It was similar to Andrew sometimes feeling badly that he couldn't marry JenniAnn and have kids with her.  It's not that *he* wanted to get married and procreate in that way.  He just really loved her and thought she wanted that.  So why did God let Ed become human aka sexual and not Andrew?  Because Steve actually did want a marriage and sex whereas JenniAnn actually wanted neither.  Steve would have put those desires aside if needed.  But for what purpose?  I think an even bigger determinant was that Andrew is happy with his life and his job.  Ed was very much not.  He lost his family, the iwi he was assigned to.  He lost his faith.  For a few years, his relationship with Steve was all he had.  God saw that and decided to use their marriage as a way to further heal Ed so that, eventually, he can resume being an angel.  Also, this is God we're talking about.  He has plans for days.  So there's a reason He would want someone around who had experienced life as both an angel and a human... but the reason for that is currently known only to God.  Well... and me.  But from the POV of inside the stories, only God knows.

JenniAnn and Shelby are both asexual but seem different.  Why?

JenniAnn is either heteroromantic asexual or demiromantic asexual meaning she's sexually attracted to no one but romantically attracted to men (or entities appearing as men) or possibly solely romantically attracted to Andrew if demi.  Asexuality.org aka AVEN defines demiromantic as "a type of grey-romantic who only experiences romantic attraction after developing an emotional connection beforehand."  For JenniAnn, it boils down to if you read her previous relationship with Eliot as an actual romantic relationship or just two people caving to societal expectations.  In contrast, Shelby is aromantic asexual.  That means she feels neither romantic or sexual attraction.  In other words, she has no interest in canoodling which is definitely something JenniAnn does with Andrew.  This is not to say that romance isn't important to Shelby.  It very much is.  She just doesn't desire it for herself.  But Andrew's and JenniAnn's romantic relationship gives her a sense of stability... so much that she's the one who goes onto document their relationship and several others for posterity. 

Since God is all-knowing, He would have known Gwen would die young so why would He assign Jamie to her and not some other angel who wasn't going to develop feelings?

I guess your take on this depends on who you center.  If you center Gwen then it seems like a kindness.  She'd suffered the death of her beloved mother and her mother's partner, struggled with loneliness, and then been married off to a jerk.  She deserved to experience true love.  It was heartbreaking for Jamie but I think if given the choice between never meeting Gwen and meeting her and losing her, Jamie would choose the former 100 out of 100 times.  It's also good to keep in mind that God always knows what's coming.  If Jamie hadn't been assigned to Gwen then Liliwen very well could have ended up raised by her terrible father.  She would not have been allowed to marry for love which would have wiped the Davies family out of existence which means there would be no Cynefin which would have quite possibly left a bunch of queer Welsh people without a safe space.  Rhiannon would not exist and who knows where that would leave Vonnie.  The ripple effects would be huge.

In the end, every angel with a human anam cara is going to have to experience their death.  Whether that happens after only a few years or after a few decades, it will still be painful.  It could still end in trauma for the angel.  But, thankfully, Heaven exists.  They get to be together again. 

Loss of a partner is something humans experience every day.  I don't think the relevant angels feel they should be any different... even if, at the time of loss, they experience anger and sorrow.

Why does almost everyone end up with kids?

 I'm including this here because of my recent epiphany that I think the common understanding of procreation is really reductive.  Don't get me wrong, I recognize that a man and a woman having sex and conceiving a child is procreation.  But I think it's kind of weird that people often use that as evidence that queer relationships are going against God's plan.  I especially find this position odd when it comes from Catholic theologians because in traditional Catholic teaching, Mary and Joseph never had sex.  Which means that by that strict definition, their marriage was not procreative.  So you're telling couples to be procreative in this particular way while holding up as an example a couple who, allegedly, were not that?  Okey-doke...  So what do I believe?

I think Mary and Joseph aka Maryam and Yosef are a wonderful example of a good marriage.  I also believe their marriage was procreative whether or not they conceived children together.  Regardless, they created the family that would raise and nurture the Son of God.  In my stories, I chose for Maryam and Yosef to not have other biological children.  But absolutely I believe they procreated.  Because to me procreation can mean a man and a woman conceiving a child.  Or it can mean a child being conceived with medical assistance like IVF.  Or it can mean two or more people of any gender expression coming together to create a family to nurture children (including grown children.) 

Sexual reproduction is a biological reality.  I get that.  But the restrictive definition of procreation, to me, disregards other biological realities like:
1.  People die, sometimes with young children.
2.  People conceive babies without necessarily being ready or willing to raise those children.
3.  People sometimes reject their children for any number of reasons.

Andrew and JenniAnn have created a family by taking in an orphan in Shelby (#1), a neglected grown child in Max (#2), and abandoned children born to unprepared mothers in Belle and Avi (also #2).  With those four and Violeta, I absolutely believe Andrew and JenniAnn were procreative.  They created a home and a family and continue to tend both and will continue to do that until they go Home.  If Roger and Loreena remain together and, say, start taking in queer youth cast out of their families, their relationship will, to my mind, be procreative.  In this way, I don't at all think procreation is restricted to heteronormative people.  I believe this mindset to be respectful not only to queer families but also to straight couples who are unable to conceive. 

All this to say, I don't believe every relationship needs to be procreative.  I only mean that, to my mind, the "Gay people can't procreate and, thus, are bad" argument is sus and hurts not only queer people but also people who choose to be childless along with people facing infertility.  So I find a lot of joy in exploring the more expansive view of procreation in my stories hence a lot of people ending up with kids even though that's not a part of my actual life.

Why did JenniAnn struggle so much with coming out to Andrew as asexual when she knew he was also ace?

I think there were several reasons.  Firstly, Andrew being ace isn't really comparable to JenniAnn being ace.  Asexuality is a given with angels.  In humans, asexuals are definitely in the minority.  I also think it's good to remember that "When You Are Real" was written back in 2010 and set in the same year.  The past decade has seen a lot of growth in all forms of queer representation.  Ace representation is still lacking but at least you can find it if you look for it.  Growing up, my only experience of the word asexual was as part of the phrase "asexual reproduction" in Biology class.  I had no concept of asexual as an identity.  So JenniAnn would have grown up in the same way.  It was something new to her, something she was still figuring out even as it dawned on her that she was that.  So "a bird who doesn't feel like a bird" was easier for her to say.  I don't think she had any concern about Andrew rejecting her or thinking she was weird.  It was just a lack of comfort with the language for her. 

Looking back and projecting, I think it's also possible that JenniAnn realized that with that admission, Andrew was probably going to back down on encouraging her to find someone other than him.  Or, even if he did (like in "Abide With Me"), it would be pretty hollow lip service.  By the time "Abide With Me" happened, Andrew thought it was the polite thing to say because he knew he'd be away for, potentially, years.  But he didn't actually want JenniAnn to find someone else and would have been hurt if she had and JenniAnn full well knew that.  So by "coming out," JenniAnn was making a commitment to Andrew.  Just because it was one she very much wanted doesn't mean it also wasn't kinda scary to make. 

Anyway, I hope this all makes sense.  Sleep has been a lil lacking of late!



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